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Posted 1 Month, 2 Weeks ago
cougarbait
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You claim strawman, but then lauch ad hominem? Impressive.

How exactly was I using a strawman argument? Was Andy not claiming to be concerned about the children in all this conflict?
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Posted 1 Month, 1 Week ago
DeweyT
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Indeed i was, sir. :o)
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Posted 1 Month, 1 Week ago
ScreeTT
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perro blanco, you ingnorant slut:

As an American, I would like to make a comment on your statement on American colonial ambitions and world domination. I, as an American do not want your stinking shithole of a mother country, or any other country, but rather, I would send our army, dressed in civilian clothes, to Europe, and other parts of the world to hunt every one of you bastards down, and double tap you in the eye with a silenced .22 caliber pistol till your kind is extinct in all parts of the world except in your own shithole of a country, and if you so much as step over the border, I would kill you graveyard dead. But don't worry, nobody will do this.......yet.
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Posted 1 Month, 1 Week ago
cougarbait
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Many Americans were actually funding the IRA to do just that, which little group, as with your suggestion, wouldn't fight in uniform because it was easier to skulk behind innocent civilians.

It's amusing to see that even now that America is terrified of signing an extradition treaty with Britain because of the strength of 'Irish' lobby. It's even more amusing given that group's strong support for Israel that their darling IRA 'hero' Gerry Adams has pissed the whole lot of them off by going to hold talks with the Hamas in Palestine.

Of course, your threat presupposes you could find your way out of America in that, according to a recent National Geographic survey, of US citizens aged between 18 and 24, 63% could not find Iraq on a map and 75% were unable to find Israel or Iran, so heaven knows how they'd cope with finding smaller countries.

If it's the 'colonialism' suggestion that upsets you so much, an easy solution for America - where 98% of the population live on 2% of the land - would be to give back the 50% of Mexico's land mass that the US 'acquired' after having declared war on Mexico in 1846. I wouldn't include Texas, although that was pivotal, but there was California, Neveda, Utah and so on. Funny that the Irish should have cropped up there as well with the Saint Patrick's Battalion (San Patricios) They were a group of several hundred Irish immigrant soldiers who deserted the U.S. Army and joined the Mexican army. Most were killed in the Battle of Churubusco although about 100 were captured and hanged as deserters. I won't bother going too deeply into Hawaii

Still, back to the present. With the rate that Red China is arming itself the US may find some stiff competition very, very soon...
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Posted 1 Month, 1 Week ago
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1953 - PRESENT AMERICAN-BACKED GENOCIDE OF THE GUATEMALAN PEOPLE

Estimated civilian deaths: over 200,000 people

A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of military-government death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions and unimaginable cruelty, totaling more than 200,000 victims - indisputably one of the most inhumane chapters of the 20th century. The justification for the coup that has been put forth over the years is that Guatemala had been on the verge of the proverbial Soviet takeover. In actuality, the Russians had so little interest in the country that it didn't even maintain diplomatic relations. The real problem was that Arbenz had taken over some of the uncultivated land of the US firm, United Fruit Company [Chiquita bananas], which had extremely close ties to the American power elite. Moreover, in the eyes of Washington, there was the danger of Guatemala's social-democracy model spreading to other countries in Latin America. Despite a 1996 'peace' accord between the government and rebels, respect for human rights remains as only a concept in Guatemala; death squads continue to operate with a significant measure of impunity against union activists and other dissidents; torture still rears its ugly head; the lower classes are as wretched as ever; the military endures as a formidable institution; the US continues to arm and train the Guatemalan military and carry out exercises with it; and key provisions of the peace accord concerning military reform have not been carried out.

1955 - 1973 AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE

Estimated total civilian deaths: 1,000,000 - 2,000,000 people

Prince Sihanouk was yet another leader who did not fancy being an American client. After many years of hostility toward his regime, including assassination plots and the infamous Nixon/Kissinger secret 'carpet bombings' of 1969-70, Washington finally overthrew Sihanouk in a coup in 1970. This was all that was needed to impel Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge forces to enter the fray. Five years later, they took power. But the years of American bombing had caused Cambodia's traditional economy to vanish. The old Cambodia had been destroyed forever. Incredibly, the Khmer Rouge were to inflict even greater misery upon this unhappy land. And to multiply the irony, the United States supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge after their subsequent defeat by the Vietnamese.

1957 - 1973 AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE LAOTIAN PEOPLE

Estimated total civilian deaths: over 500,000 people

The Laotian left, led by the Pathet Lao, tried to effect social change peacefully, making significant electoral gains and taking part in coalition governments. But the United States would have none of that. The CIA and the State Department, through force, bribery and other pressures, engineered coups in 1958, 1959 and 1960. Eventually, the only option left for the Pathet Lao was armed force. The CIA created its famous 'Arme Clandestine' - totaling 30,000, from every corner of Asia - to do battle, while the US Air Force, between 1965 and 1973, rained down more than two million tons of bombs upon the people of Laos, many of whom were forced to live in caves for years in a desperate attempt to escape the monsters falling from the sky. After hundreds of thousands had been killed, many more maimed, and countless bombed villages with hardly stone standing upon stone, the Pathet Lao took control of the country, following on the heels of events in Vietnam.

MID-1950S, 1970-71 AMERICAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS ON THE ELECTED LEADER OF COSTA

RICA

To liberal American political leaders, President Jose Figueres was the quintessential 'liberal democrat', the kind of statesman they liked to think, and liked the world to think, was the natural partner of US foreign policy rather than the military dictators who somehow kept popping up as allies. Yet the United States tried to overthrow Figueres (in the 1950s, and perhaps also in the 1970s, when he was again president), and tried to assassinate him twice. The reasons? Figueres was not tough enough on the left, led Costa Rica to become the first country in Central America to establish diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, and on occasion questioned American foreign policy, like the Bay of Pigs invasion.

1959 - PRESENT AMERICAN SUBVERSION AND STATE TERRORISM OF THE CUBAN PEOPLE

Fidel Castro came to power at the beginning of 1959. A U.S. National Security Council meeting of March 10, 1959 included on its agenda the feasibility of bringing 'another government to power in Cuba.' There followed 40 years of terrorist attacks, bombings, full-scale military invasion, sanctions, embargoes, isolation, assassinations...Cuba had carried out The Unforgivable Revolution, a very serious threat of setting a 'good example' in Latin America. The saddest part of this is that the world will never know what kind of society Cuba could have produced if left alone, if not constantly under the gun and the threat of invasion, if allowed to relax its control at home. The idealism, the vision, the talent were all there. But we'll never know. And that of course was the idea.

1960 - PRESENT AMERICAN ASSASSINATION OF PATRICE LUMUMBA AND SUPPORT OF STATE

TERRORISM OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CONGO/ZAIRE From Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since WWII

In June 1960, Patrice Lumumba became the Congo's first prime minister after independence from Belgium. But Belgium retained its vast mineral wealth in Katanga province, prominent Eisenhower administration officials had financial ties to the same wealth, and Lumumba, at Independence Day ceremonies before a host of foreign dignitaries, called for the nation's economic as well as its political liberation, and recounted a list of injustices against the natives by the white owners of the country. The man was obviously a 'Communist.' The poor man was obviously doomed. Eleven days later, Katanga province seceded, in September, Lumumba was dismissed by the president at the instigation of the United States, and in January 1961 he was assassinated at the express request of [President] Dwight Eisenhower. There followed several years of civil conflict and chaos and the rise to power of Mobutu Sese Seko, a man not a stranger to the CIA. Mobutu went on to rule the country for more than 30 years, with a level of corruption and cruelty that shocked even his CIA handlers. The Zairian people lived in abject poverty despite the plentiful natural wealth, while Mobutu became a multibillionaire.

1960S - PRESENT AMERICAN SUPPORT FOR COLOMBIAN STATE TERRORISM OF THE

COLOMBIAN PEOPLE

Estimated civilian deaths: over 67,000 people

Under the guise of aid for 'counternarcotics' operations, the U.S. Corporate Mafia Government is supplying weapons, training, troops and $1.3 billion of American taxpayers' money to its murderous apprentices in the Colombian military. The real purpose of all this aid is to support the government's massive political oppression of the Colombian people. It's Vietnam all over again. Colombia is the most violent country in the world. The vast majority of the terror is committed by the U.S.-supported military and right-wing paramilitary forces - who are heavily involved in cocaine production and smuggling. They have tortured and murdered tens of thousands of people in trade unions and left-wing movements, including many human rights activists and grassroots organizers.

1963 AMERICAN/BRITISH ASSASSINATION OF THE LEADER OF IRAQ In July 1958, Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem overthrew the monarchy and established a republic. Though somewhat of a reformist, he was by no means any kind of radical. His action, however, awakened revolutionary fervor in the masses and increased the influence of the Iraqi Communist Party. By April of the following year, CIA Director Allen Dulles, with his customary hyperbole, was telling Congress that the Iraqi Communists were close to a 'complete takeover' and the situation in that country was 'the most dangerous in the world today.' In actuality, Kassem aimed at being a neutralist in the Cold War and pursued rather inconsistent policies toward the Iraqi Communists, never allowing them formal representation in his cabinet, nor even full legality, though they strongly desired both. He tried to maintain power by playing the Communists off against other ideological groups. A secret plan for a joint US-Turkish invasion of the country was drafted by the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff shortly after the 1958 coup. Reportedly, only Soviet threats to intercede on Iraq's side forced Washington to hold back. But in 1960, the United States began to fund the Kurdish guerrillas in Iraq who were fighting for a measure of autonomy and the CIA undertook an assassination attempt against Kassem, which was unsuccessful. The Iraqi leader made himself
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Posted 1 Month, 1 Week ago
juliedacdedrw
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snip your evil lies

Dear Vox Populi, On behalf of every decent person in the world,

There is an inescapable, 100% certainty that you will one day DIE, an absolute and total certainty. That gives me comfort. You WILL die and nobody will care. Few will even notice. You will be dead for ALL eternity. We can all be glad of that fact. I would like to say that I'd dance upon your grave, but chances are, when your time comes, your stinking corpse will not be lamented but strewn into the garbage and on to a landfill site to rot. No 72 virgins for you, pervert, just lots and lots of eternal, unimaginably severe pain.

Good riddance, Rachel Harrassment.
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